After finding a speech I gave on Gay Mormons at a Sunstone event ten years ago, an Associated Press reporter phoned me alst weekend and wanted a few quotes about an announcement that the Mormon Church had agreed to meet with representatives of Affirmation, the gay Mormon group. The interview was lengthy and the reporter was prepared and asked very good questions. But, like many other times I have been interviewed for stories, only one partial line and one other quote made it into the story. There is much more to this story.... But, first, here is the article:

Dr. Rob Killian poses in his office in Seattle on Sunday, April 6, 2008. After decades of silence, Mormon church officials have agreed to meet with a gay Mormon support group. Killian called a meeting between Affirmation and the church a "small improvement" and said he thinks the church may be acting for public relations reasons and fears it will perpetuate a false belief that the church will change. (Source:AP/Kevin P. Casey)
Mormon church agrees to meet with gay group
by Jennifer Dobner
Associated Press
Monday Apr 7, 2008
SALT LAKE CITY -- After decades of silence, Mormon church officials have agreed to meet with a gay Mormon support group that has sought to forge understanding between the faith’s leaders and its gay members.
In a letter received last week, leaders of Affirmation were invited to meet with Fred M. Riley, commissioner of Family Services for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Harold C. Brown, the agency’s past commissioner.
"We’re pleased the church is opening up the possibility for dialogue," said Dave Melson, Affirmation’s assistant executive director. "Affirmation has tried 5 or 6 times over the past 31 years to meet with church leaders. This is their second response."
Affirmation has repeatedly invited church leaders to meet or attend the group’s annual conference, but the only response was a letter last year declining the conference invitation, Melson said.
In February, just three days after 80-year-old Thomas S. Monson was named president of the 13 million-member church, Affirmation petitioned the new leader to meet and begin an unprecedented conversation about gays in the church.
Riley’s letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press, says he and Brown were asked by Monson to meet with Affirmation on his behalf.
"We believe that is always important to have the opportunity to be given better understanding of your points of view so that the church can appropriately understand your organization and how best to be helpful," Riley wrote.
The meeting is scheduled for August, Riley confirmed Sunday in an e-mail to The Associated Press.
Among the specifics Affirmation wants to address: the historical treatment of gays by the church, including recommendations for aversion therapies to "cure" homosexuality; recommendations for more effective counseling methods; ways to avoid family break-ups; and a change in the honor code at church-owned Brigham Young University that can result in expulsion for sexually active gay students. The same standard applies to straight students.
"None of this requires a change in doctrine," said Melson. "They’re good for both gays and the church."
Melson, who spoke with Riley on Friday, said he asked if the meeting would result in any change or was simply and effort to placate Affirmation.
"They said that there won’t be immediate changes, but they are definitely interested in helping ... that they are sincere," he said. "We would like to start to a dialogue, even if it isn’t immediately fruitful.
For Affirmation, which has about 2,000 gay, lesbian and transgender members worldwide, an official meeting with anyone from the church organization is unprecedented.
Founded in secret by gay students at BYU in 1977, Affirmation has traditionally been ignored by church leaders, Melson said.
Killian called a meeting between Affirmation and the church a "small improvement" and said he thinks the church may be acting for public relations reasons. He fears it will perpetuate a false belief that the church will change.
"There is no way under the current system or the current administration that our story would be even listened to or heard," he said.
Valerie Larabee, executive director of the Utah Pride Center in Salt Lake City, is more hopeful.
"Any time that two groups come together there’s a possibility, and I hope the possibility can lead to more understanding, more acceptance and less isolation," said Larabee.
Many gay, lesbian and transgender church members seek support from the center after failing to find the help they need at LDS Family Services, she said.
"Part of the reason Affirmation does their work is to build bridges," Larabee said. "This is definitely the building of a bridge ... sometimes that process is long and arduous."
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Now, comments from me:
First:
I don't hate my parents. I was explaining that Reparative Therapy seeks to find blame for homosexuality--much of which follows the old line that a 'distant father' or 'abusive father' or a mother who is 'too close' to their gay sons cause the homosexuality. And, that if one follows the line that hating one's homosexual feelings in this setting leads one to learn to hate and blame their parents was where I was going with the story.
Second:
This is a public relations stunt by the church. The meeting is not with any leader, but with the very Social Services that has for years destroyed gay and lesbian Mormons by offering shock therapy, marriage as a cure. The very social services that does not have their clients, the patients, as their main concern, but a theory and religious organization as the most important focus of the therapy. The very social services that has led to increased rates of suicide among gay and lesbian Mormons; the very social services that has pushed marriage as a cure and thus led to many failed marriages, destroyed self esteem and broken relations between children and their gay parent. This meeting is not set until August--months from now...late in the summer.
Third:
I feel for those still trapped in their belief systems that place LDS Doctrine as paramount and their own struggles to understand or fit into a church that despises them, that teaches them to hate themselves; to put their own loving natures and gifts aside for the promise of a place in heaven. This is such a painful place to be. There often seems no way out. I have now spent decades observing this personal journey in many men and women. I can only offer the hope that there is a way out of this pain. That there is a life outside of such pain. There is a spiritual journey to be had. And, most importantly, God Loves you. God does not hate you; He is not ignoring your pleas to be changed; to be made 'straight'; to take away this 'gift' of being or having homosexual desires and curiosities. You do not need to destroy yourself or your families to make it right with God. There are thousands and thousands who you can reach out to. There are so many good therapists to find; There are groups to connect with; You are not alone in this journey.
Fourth:
Reparative Therapy is a false therapy and malpractice in medicine and psychology. Anyone who is offering it as a valid option to gay and lesbian and transgendered and questioning people is offering snake oil and bad medicine to you. Avoid them at all costs.
Fifth:
If anyone who reads this needs some personal advice or direction in private, please feel free to email me or comment on this blog. I have lists of books, online stories, therapy referrals, and other things to offer. I can point you in safe directions where you can meet other people who have survived this journey--even with a variety of choices and decisions. You can learn more about how to survive and come to understand this journey. You can learn to love yourselves.
Rob Killian
Seattle, WA
Labels: Affirmation, Gamofites, gay mormons, LDS Social Services, Reparative Therapy